New account (NA) and how to make I made the gold to pay for WoW Token.

I thought about doing a project during the Christmas break and this is want I came up with...

Buy the Battlechest and Warlords of Draenor in the Blizzard sale and go and play on the NA servers and see if I can make the gold to pay for a WoW Token at the end of January. I wanted to set my self some rules, so if  any new players to World of Warcraft or gold making read this, they could do it themselves.

My Rules

  1. Only 2 chactors can be used. one is the free boost to level 90 and a new level 1.
  2. I can level both of them.
  3. The level 1 professions are Mining and Herbalism.
  4. Pick two professions for the level 90. I picked Enchanting and Jewelcrafting.
  5. No help.
  6. Sell everything and anything!!
These rules are not really important, but I wanted to make it a challenge. as I needed to make sure this was a fun project and didn't feel like I was doing work. 

First job was to choose what class and names and here is a picture of them both at the end of January-

Level 100
Level 28
Wow Token prices on the NA servers are around the 37000g mark which meant I had to make just over 1200g per day, which doesn't seem a lot if your a seasoned good making. I have no stock, no battle pets that I can sell plus no gold, so what I first did was to start levelling Shinnearth and get his Garrison set up. I thought levelling up would be a good way to get some gold as you get around 14 gold per quest and sometimes 30. Once I had got some some gold saved up, I next set out working on Shadowshinn and getting her ready to work the Auction House, but I couldn't help myself but take her out for a bit...I miss playing a priest!!


  • Vendor Items, so make sure  you check out my post Here about selling those and also get the addon called HandyNotes LimitedVendors ( check out this post by Logon which gives you the link for the addon, but also groups to add to TradeSkillMaster. Handynotes_LimitedVendors Your recipe vendor addon!).
  •  Transmog can a be a really good gold earner, but you need stock. The way I got my stock was to use the Sniper option in TradeSkillMaster and the Great Deals option. These can both be found in the Shopping tab, you can only use the Great Deals option if you're a Premium user. It's ok if you're not, because you can go to Great Deals page and find your server and you copy and paste into TradeSkillMaster. Here is a couple of screen shots showing you what to do. 
Part 1

Part 2

Part 3

  • Herbs from my herb garden: I don't get loads, but they always sell and I've set up a min price of 1g per herb. In the last 30 days I've made over 1800g which isn't too bad for 5mins work a day!
  • Dalaran Shirts: Love selling these items as they cost between 35-55g and can sell anywhere from 500-1000g each. If you want to know where to get these, check out my post Here. Below is some proof of the sales you can make. On my server there is someone else trying to sell these shirts, hopefully you might be lucky and be the only one selling.

Other Incomes

  • Using Sniper in TradeskillMaster can be used to make a lot of gold, remember to only buy items you know that will sell. I try to stick to battle pets and crafting materials like herbs, ore, fur and levelling gems.
  • Questing: This has been a really good gold earner, I've made 13050g so far and I still have quests left to go in Draenor and the dailies. 
  • Garrisons: I've made 4650g, most of that has been from Garrison missions, but I did get a 1000g Shipyard mission which was at only 92% and I went for it and was successful. I only have 20 followers right now, but I just have upgraded my Frostwall Tavern to level 3 as you get 'lucrative treasure hunter missions'. I haven't seen any yet, hopefully I won't have to wait too long...

Setting up costs/Expenses

I had to spend quite a large amount of gold, here is a rough break down of those costs.


Total cost of setting up my level 3 Garrison was 12200g, These are the buildings I have right now, I'm no Garrison expert so please let me know if I'm doing something wrong.

Large- Barracks Level 2  Bodyguard.
Large- War Mill Level 2 Exchange garrison resources for new armor upgrades for followers.
Medium- Frostwall Tavern Level 3 Unlocks treasure hunter missions.
Medium- Trading Post Level 1 Trade crafting reagents for garrison resources.
Small- Enchanter's Study Level 1 Work orders
Small- Gem Boutique Level 1 Work orders
Small- Salvage Yard Level 2 Increases chance of recovering Salvage
Frostwall Mines Level 2 Two mine shafts and if add follower helps find mining trunks.
Herb Garden Level 2 More herbs and more work orders.
Fishing Shack Level 1 Allows small fish to be caught in garrison waters.

I also spent over 4397g on stocking up to sell on the Auction House, most of the gold has been on transmog, pets and vendor items.

Total 16597g

So did I make the gold needed to buy a token. Yes I did and I made a bit more...

Token cost   37165g
Set up costs  16597g
          Total  53762g

Garrisons      4750g
Sales           34663g 
Questing     13000g
Looting         7219g (worked out from last Achievement)
          Total  59632g

That should give me 5870g left over, but I have 11292g. The only thing I can think off is the rest was made from selling grey items while levelling Shinnearth. I do remember making a fair amount of gold while I was out doing my quests, plus I was also collecting all the Treasures in each zone.


It worked and it was, I mean still is good fun and I'm spending 90% of my WoW time over on the NA account. I hope this little post about how I did it can help someone do the same, I tried to keep it really simple and made sure that you didn't have to spend all your time in the Auction house. Don't get me wrong...I love sitting in the Auction House but I've done so much more in the last month then in the last three over on the EU servers. My EU account has all been about gold making and when I pop back over to post and say hi its good, but I know I'm going to be posting for the next hour or two. So if you fancy starting again like me or just want to see if you can do it...please try and let me know how you get on!!

P.S If you need a healer add Shinn#2183 



Tales of Gold Ep 4: New Project!

On this podcast I talk about my new project in World of Warcraft.


Greater Inscription's still sell!

Just wanted to pass on  this little tip... if you're not selling Greater Inscription's from Mists of Pandaria, think about starting.  I'm selling them most days and right now I've got the price up at 999g on most of them. I asked some people who watch my stream on Twitch to give this market a try and let me know how it goes. I've had some really good feedback with people seeing really good results.

Craft or buy the Inks

This is the hard part when it comes down to making these items, as the Inks are made using Misty Pigment which you don't get every time you mill the herbs. Here are a list of the herbs needed.

Fool's Cap
Green Tea Leaf
Rain Poppy
Snow Lily
Desecrated Herb

I would say that I craft 95% of all my Starlight Ink's as they can cost up to 100g on my realm, I am sometimes lucky and pick up the odd stack or two. Check your realm as it might be easier to buy the inks then craft, also you can trade 10x Warbinder Ink for 1x Starlight Ink it all depends on the prices of the materials. When I'm buying materials I try to stick to not paying more then 50g (Target Price) per item.

Hopes this little post helps...



tales of Gold Ep 3 New markets...more gold!

Welcome to Ep 3 of Tales of Gold a podcast about gold making in World of warcraft... 

 As always I will tell you about what I've been up too in WoW over the last 2 weeks.
 • Been working hard to set up 2 new markets, selling bars and Battle Pets. I will go over more detail later in the show.
 • I finally got Pathfinder and my Corrupted Dreadwing mount. 
• Leveling using the Excess potion of accelerated learning . 
• Garrison's, trying to make gold!!

 Wow News 

 • 50% off Mounts and Pets thought to Jan 4th. Also you can buy the Brightpaw pet which cost £9 in the uk and 100% of the fee goes to Make-A-Wish. 
• Legion Alpha, you can explore two areas now, which are Stormheim and Highmountain.
 • Winter Veil starts on the 16th. Gold Making News Not too much to really talk about. 
• Sapu from TradeskillMaster has posted on reddit about a new desktop app this post can be found at...
https://www.reddit.com/r/woweconomy/comments/3wjove/public_beta_of_new_tsm_desktop_application_r300/ and it has been released today at Tradeskillmaster.com

• Yourwowmoney have a new podcast out, so check that out at yourwowmoney.com

 Main topic 

 Smelting/selling barsCheck out this guide its awesome. Sterling Smelting guide 

 Battle Pets- Not been a market that I've done before and didn't think I would, but after talking to my friend Morricade about it one night streaming I thought I would give it a go.

 Check out this link for pets and prices. https://theunderminejournal.com/#eu/the-maelstrom/category/battlepets 

 You can find me at.... 
 Twitter- @the00shinn
 Blog- www.shinnstalesofgold.com 
Twitch- www.twitch.tv/the00shinn 

 You can also email any question to shinnstales@gmail.com 



BlizzCon: Professions, plus more and how or if I'm going to change in Legion.


Well, what can I say about BlizzCon...it was awesome, well the parts i saw anyway. I'm going to talk about Professions and Transmog and anything else that I think of as i go along.


I had to wait until Day 2, but it was worth the wait as the World of Warcraft: Legion game system panel gave us a little insight. The first thing they said about professions was "we want to give you more stuff to do". I'm happy with that right away...

Below is a list of  points that I would like to talk about:
  • Trainers.
  • Recipes are learnt from all over the place.
  • Profession quest lines.
  • Professions New UI.
  • Recipe Ranks.
  • Obliterum.
  • Craft at your own pace.
  • Crafted gear should be special.
  • Glyphs.
  • Runes.
  • Gathering.
  • Secondary professions.
  • Crispy Bacon.
  • Transmog


Blizzard have said that there won't be the normal trainers that we are used to, in Legion you learn recipes out in the world and from people you meet a long your way. They talked about tailoring and how you start learning about cloth (not fur) and start making a rope, but its not working very well. The cloth is rejecting the thread and just making a mess, at this point you're sent off to meet a Nightfallen, who comes from the tribe of Nightborn Elves, but was exiled. From here you start a quest line which takes you a Dalaran and learning more recipes. We were also told that gathering professions we also have quest lines and recipes to learn.

Below are a couple of screen shots showing the two trainers that you will meet.


Professions New UI.

The UI is having a make-over and as you can see from the pictures below there is something different...Recipe Ranks!! You learn the one star version and if you want to upgrade that recipe, you need to find it out in the world, these two and three star recipes upgrade, you need less mats or less time to make said items. If you want to make your items more powerful, you will need something else and I'll tell you about that after showing you the New UI where you will see that you can adds recipes to a favorite list and also a learned tab and unlearned tab. They mentioned that the unlearned will show you where you can find those recipes.

Old UI

New UI

1-3 star recipe ranks


This is the stuff that is required to upgrade your items to make them more powerful. To get Obliterum you need to get to lvl 110 and you will start a quest line that ends up with you building a Obliterum Forge in the middle of Dalaran...

Forge in the middle of Dalaran.
Obliterum is gained for destroying crafted gear. They used the example;  if you are a Jewelcrafter and wanted to make a ring with the right stats,  so you make 5 or 6 of them and you finally get the ring you wanted. You now have five rings to sell on the AH or you could take them to the forge and get Obliterum. The Obliterum is then used to make the ring you wanted even more powerful!! I think this could help us gold makers because not only are people wanting to buy items they may also buy the items to take to the forge for Obliterum...the only thing I don't know is can you sell it on the AH?

Craft at your own pace and crafted gear should be special.

Not sure what I can say about the 'craft at your own pace', does that mean not so many cool-downs? Or are they saying there is so much stuff to do, we will be busy and there is no need to rush? I wanted more information , but they moved on to our next point...Crafted gear should be special.

Blizzard want crafted gear not to be a copy of raid gear, below you can see two crafted items. The left one is made from Engineering which is a goggles shaped like a gun with fire bullets!! The one on the right is necklace made for a Warrior as it has run increase while Enraged. Also all rings and necklaces will have a gem slot. I can see Jewelcrafting being back in favour with rings and necklaces having gems slot, but also having items which only certain classes can only use... 

Engineering:                                                                        Jewelcrafting:

Is changing so much...Blizzard feel that major glyphs are redundant are removing them from the game!! I was nearly in tears at this point thinking what am I going to do in Legion now. After I calmed down and listened some more, they went on to talk about minor glyphs and what role they will play. Minor glyphs will now be a consumable item which you add to the spells in your spellbook and not learnt like before. Take a look at the pictures below showing a minor glyph and then how it works once applied.

Right click the glyph to add to spell.

Show how the glyph will work now added.

There is a restriction of one glyph per spell, but you can have as many glyphs as you want...

Inscription is also getting a new consumable, which lasts a week, but you can only use one at a time. These Runes are used to help fight  bosses which you might be stuck on and need a little help. I only have one Rune I can show you, buy hopefully there will be lots of others to make.

New to Inscription.

 Secondary Professions

Archaeology is going to have its own campaign going over several months where you find lots of things that you can use and there are pets to be found.

Cooking, they are bringing back a Panda to help with new recipes ( sorry they did say who, but I'm not sure who he is). Plus I nearly forgot, you will be able to make...

I love bacon!!

Fishing...I love fishing as you just can sit there and watch something else on the other monitor whilst doing it, however they now want fishing to be more of an adventure. Not sure what this means, but it sounds like fun.


In Legion there will be a Wardrobe for gear.
  • Item appearances are automatically added to your wardrobe.
  • You can toss the item once unlocked.
  • Account wide.
Here is a look at the new Transmogrity UI.

The death of some gold makers!!

They have also added a tab for outfits, which is really useful for people who love transmog. 

Outfits made easy.
The outfits can also be linked, so you can share with your friends. They didn't finish there, they also did these points below...

  • All item in your bank, void storage and inventory are automatically unlocked.
  • Items awarded from every quest you have ever completed.
  • Items you may not have chosen.
  • You can hide your Shoulders.
  • Three new transmoggable slots- Weapons, Shirts, Tabards!!


Just got one more thing to say here...all nodes are now shared, so no more rushing over to get that herb before someone else does!!

What does this mean to me and gold making?

First thing I'm going to say is...I can't wait for Legion to drop so i can get my teeth into professions and seeing where I can make lots of gold. 

I love the way you have to go and find recipes and go on quests to build up a story along the way. 

The new UI looks good, but I use TSM for crafting and wont be using this very much apart from looking for recipes that I don't have. Recipes ranks could be using as gold makers we are always worrying about mat prices, so if we can save on mats and time, I'm up for that!

Crafting gear looks like it could be a good market, as they have said they don't want it to be a copy of raid gear. The two items that they talked about look really cool and I can see lots of people wanting to get hold of these items. 

Jewelcrafting is looking like it might be the market leader in my view, but what do I know? Lets just wait and see.

The upgrading of items using Obliterum sounds like it could be a really good market to get into, selling the items that people are going to destroy. There is going to be items that nobody wants to use, these items could sell very well, it might just take a while to work out which ones don't get used. I'm not sure how I stand on if I want Obliterum to be available on the AH...i think we could make more gold from selling the items for people to do themselves.

Inscription changes were a big blow when they first started talking and I was thinking, shit there goes 20-50k a week gone, but after i thought about it I don't feel too bad now. I'm still going to have minor glyphs to sell and now you can add one to every spell you have. I'm hopeful that people will go out and buy one for every spell, glyphs is still going to be a big market for me. The new Runes added I'm not so sure about, time will tell.

I used to love cooking and the rest of the secondary professions and i might dip my feet back in with making some Crispy Bacon, as this could be used a lot in raids. Can't wait to get out and fish in Legion and see what happens...

Transmog, is it dead? I'm not feeling very upbeat at the moment. When they started talking about the wardrobe it was bad, but when they said its account bound i was like shit! I don't know what else I can say right now, as I'm still in shock!!

The last thing i want to say is....I am pretty happy about the change in gathering...and now its time for bed!

Thank you for taking the time to read my blog.