Is it me or has gold making changed?

The first point I want to make is...

Why have they changed professions so much since the end of  Mist of Pandaria? I don't like the way Professions are set out, far too many cooldown's and the way it works with your Garrison does my head in, doing those work orders just so you get the materials that you need. Their was no way of just hitting the ground running and making good profit. I felt like the cooldowns dictated the time scale on the high end items, which as I'm only just getting into the game again, puts me miles behind everyone.
I'm not saying, I should be able to produce high value items straight  away, but if I work hard and know that if I put the effort in I would like to see the rewards sooner and not just having to wait 15 days to make one item. One last thing to say about professions is...I just want to have fun lvling them up and looking forward to get the next set of designs/plans whatever else they're called.

It does feel  like I'm having a bit of a rant and I know that WoD has been out for nearly a year now and other people have most likely said the same thing, but I wanted to give my point of view. The good news in that Blizzard have said that they're putting a team to work on profession and know they messed up. So fingers crossed...

 My second point is about the gold making community.

When I first started gold making over 2 years ago, there was so many people writing blogs about gold making and streaming, but now their doesn't seem to be many out there...
In my eyes people were always willing to help anyone who asked and I think this set us apart from other groups/communities. Yes we all love making gold, but didn't mind passing this information on (unless they were playing on your realm) and this is why I blog and stream on Twitch. I love streaming and answering people questions and I will do my best to help anyone. I doesn't bother me if I have to stop what I'm doing and take 30 mins explaining something on TSM, because being interactive is what it's all about and not just me playing World of Warcraft.

we are lucky in our community and have some awesome websites that are the backbone of how I make gold, they offer loads of advice and guidance. I check these sites on a daily basis and I have provided the links below for you to go and take a look yourselves:

The Consortium WoW Gold Forums
The Undermine Journal

Below is also a list of people who I follow that create blogs and stream about gold making:

Phat Lewts Gold. writes about gold making and a must read.
Profitz streams on Twitch and has written an addon that helps you make gold.
The Gold Queen writes a lot about gold making and sometimes streams on Twitch.

Personally, I would like to thank a friend of mine, who has helped me in-game and has always been there when I needed advice...thanks Morricade!

So this next part is down to you guys, Who is still out there gold making?



Feels like Day 1 again in gold making...

Well my new computer is here!! I'm back in-game and I cant wait to get in and start gold making...but the question is...where do I start!?!
Lovely view...

Looks a bit Steath

I'm probably just going to quest for a while, I want to ease myself into it and I've got to say I am quite enjoying the quest/storyline at the start, by end of day two I got  Fearsom to lvl92 and I must admit I haven't even looked at any addons needed for gold making, that changed on day three, as I have been invited to TMS3 and I can't wait to get started.

Wow...can't believe how much stock I lost, I was hoping it wasn't going to be this bad, but I've lost over 90%. Crikey!! Where do I start? Flipping Cata & MoP greens (77-79, 83-84) was always a good gold maker. Glyph's and Transmog too. I went straight onto the AH to buy stock and I have started doing the markets below, these used to be really good sellers, but it would help if I had some stock.

Starting Markets

MarketsMin PriceNormal PriceMax Price
Vendor Items12g50g100g
Cata Green Armor150g295g500g
Cata Green Weapons200g395g500g
MoP Green Armor150g295g500g
MoP Green Weapons200g295g500g
Glyphs70% DBMinBuyout100% DBMinBuyout250% DBMinBuyout
Old Enchants35% DBGlobalMinBuyoutAvg100% DBGlobalMinBuyoutAvg250% DBGlobalMinBuyoutAvg
Old Mats50% DBMinBuyout120% DBMinBuyout170% DBMinBuyout
Transmog50% DBGlobalMarketAvg125% DBGlobalMarketAvg250% DBGlobalMarketAvg
Old Engineering50% DBGlobalMinBuyoutAvg105% DBGlobalMinBuyoutAvg200% DBGlobalMinBuyoutAvg

Glyph's right now are seem to be selling quite well, but  obviously I need to restock and to do this I'll be using TSM Crafting which works really well when trying to sell Glyph's. I have added some pictures below.

First thing I did was to do is set up a operation in the crafting tab and add it to my glyph's group. 

My one for glyph's is very simple.

Once the operation has been set up, open up Inscription and this is how it should look.

Now ready to gather the materials.

This box will open up after clicking the gather tab.

By the time I had finished, I had had spent over 8000g, which does seen a lot, but I needed to restock so much stuff.

Week 1 update

I'm going to try and update the blog with a weekly total, showing how much I've spent and also, giving a breakdown of  my purchases and sales, picking out the best items each week.

1000g for the mine, but should make that back from the ore.
Most of the purchases have been green Cata/Mop items and herbs to rebuild my stock of glyph's up.

Not massive sales #slowstart
Here are some of my best sales from the week...

Heavy Savage Leather                   

I'm in the black, so all is good. Fingers crossed next week is better.

I'm not going to lie and say its been a fun week trying to find out what sells and what doesn't and I know I can make gold in World of Warcraft, it just may take a little bit of time to work out my realm. Next week, I am going to work really hard on my pricing and where I can make more gold from my professions, I have only really levelled Alchemy and Tailoring, but after talking to my buddy Morricade, I am about to start levelling my Enchanting and Inscription, Morricade told me that he is making quite a bit of gold from WoD enchants, so I am going to give it a try.



It's been a while, but I'm back...

Hi fellow gold makers, 

I'm happy to say that after a year with no access to a computer to play World of Warcraft on and being really busy in real life...i am back!!!!!!! 

I have just ordered a new computer which is currently being built as I write this post...yippeee :)

I have really missed playing World of Warcraft and I can't wait to get back in-game to start making lots of gold & being part of the community again. For the past nine months I have kept myself away from all things WoW related but lately I have been working my way back, reading blog's and listening to podcasts. 

Hopefully within the next week and a half, i should receive my new computer, it should take around a day to set up, so i should be back up and running in around 2 weeks’ time. Firstly i am going to take it slow and try to work out what markets/professions I will need to work on in order to start replenishing my gold, due to my son robbing me of 200,000 to help pay for his WoW tokens.

Unfortunately I feel like I'm starting from scratch because I've lost around 70% of my stock due to it being left in my mail box but it shouldn't take me long to restock, thinking of starting with the basic markets i.e. Transmog and flipping mats.

I have heard lots of negative stuff about Garrisons and how much time people need to spend working and completing missions/chores, although this sounds like a drag, I am looking forward to dipping my toe in and giving it a go!  I just need to remember that I don't have time to play all day (wife's words not mine), so time management is key in this area.

With regards to my streaming, I can’t commit to a date at the moment as I am unsure how on long things will take me to set everything up but I will keep you updated and I don’t plan on leaving it too long. I just don’t want it to seem rushed!

Thank you for taking the time to read my blog and I look forward to writing more in the coming future.



Transmog.......is it worth it??

Transmog.......its a funny market I find, because there doesn't seem to be set pattern of sales. I find like in real life everyone is different. So I have been thinking of how to get more sales in this market.

  • Do I just keep posting what stock I have and not worry about trying to find out what people want?
Selling this way would be the easy option, but if I did keep going this way the most I make is around three thousand gold a week. I still think I'm going to work this way a little bit, so I can sell off old stock and pick up some of them random sales. But I don't see this as my long term plan for Transmog!!

  • Do I start only selling items that I have sold before, by checking the Accounting Module on TradeSkillMaster?
This option isn't going to work, because I don't sell many items more than once, apart from the shirts that you can buy from Dalaran. So lets bin this idea lol.

  • Do I research what sets of armor sell the most and start making these sets?
I am going to see if I can get some more sales using this method, as I think this may be the only real way of getting the sales I want/need. Next thing I need to do is locate the basic sets and start to build these up ready for selling. 


First thing I did was take a look at what items I already had in stock using Item Tracker and then i used WoW Transmog to search for sets that matched the items.  I found this website really useful, it helps you to view other available armor sets.

After picking some sets out that I liked the look of, I thought it would be a good idea to make a shopping group. Here is the list of the sets below:

I've started out with twenty three sets which might be too many, but I can always reduce the number at a later date.

Pricing wise I'm using the following set-up:

Transmog Sets

Alabaster Plate set

All of these items drop from world mobs, so you should find them on the Auction House. I  personally think that this would look good if you had a white shirt on underneath. 

Dropped by lvl 50 mobs

Selling Prices - Min 3500g, Max 5000g

Jade Plate Set

This set really stands out and looks good on a female!! The price for this set is very high.

Dropped by lvl 50 mobs

Selling Prices- Min 21000g, Max 25000g

Magnificent Mail Set

Its a bit bright, but its quite popular. I'm not sure about the Helmet, I think you could find a better looking one.

Dropped by lvl 50 mobs.

Selling Prices- Min 9000g, Max 12000g

Imbued Netherweave Cloth Set

Imbued Netherweave Boots
Imbued Netherweave Pants
Imbued Netherweave Robe
Imbued Netherweave Tunic

This is a crafted set (Tailoring), so it would be possible to make this yourself, otherwise check out the Auction House.

Selling Prices- Min 1550g, Max 3000g

I have not made all the sets available as this is just a taster, however, I will be adding all of the sets to my blog.


Below shows a few possible ways of making sales:

  1. Posting all the items on the Auction house - I don't see this being the best way forward, however I think selling transmog on the Auction House is good for random items and the reason for this is because I could be undercut on certain items in the set.
  2. Using Trade Chat as my main selling tool - I have been told you can use an addon called Guild Recruitment Helper, I know we all often get spammed by guild invite addons but this one might help me in Trade Chat. By using this addon it allows me to set a macro which posts a message in trade after a certain time period. I haven't used this addon before, so I'll give it a go and see how a get on. 

Right I'm going to finish there and start checking the Auction House for any missing items!!



How to add my Vendor item list's to TSM.

I did do a video about setting up groups for vendor items, but that shows more about setting up prices and doesn't show how to Import strings of items or how to use Restocker. Some people in my Twitch chat have asked for a list that they can import right into TradeSkillMaster. So I thought I would start again as I've worked hard to make sure I've got all the items from Orgrimmar and Stormwind. I'm planning on visting Dalaran and Stattrath to see if there is anything there I can sell and make gold!!

Please not that you may want to download all of the modules for TradeSkillMaster. Here is the link to my page with all the Addons Used.

Setting up "Shinn's List"

First thing you need to do is open up TradeSkillMaster and then click the Groups tab, which will take you to this point and this is where 

When you get here you need to set up a subgroup. I've going to set my up in my main Auctioning group. Next click the Management tab and this will take you to the shot below.

Once you get here you need to add the name of the Subgroup, I used Vendor Items, but you can use whatever you want. Just make sure you click the OK button.

How that you have set up your subgroup, which you can see below. Next you need to add the items, which is done by using the Import/Export Tab. So click this tab and it will look like the picture below and this where you to add this list of numbers into the Import box. Copy and paste this string......


Make sure you remember to click the OK button, because I have done it before and had to start over again!

This is what should happen next to you subgroup. After this you can next work on what price you want to sell these items for. I'm still working on finding the best prices, but some of my friends (Wowprofitz,Killerdamage and ColdfireBE) who use this list make a ton of gold.

Prices used

Here is the how i set up my prices right now.........they're very basic until I find out what sells the best and the worst and then think about changing the prices.

Minimum price- 25g
Normal price- 50g
Maximum price- 100g

But as you know every realm is different and Vendor items don't sell that well, but I'm sure if you take your time and work out your best prices......it will be a good market. Also this is a really useful if you want to start afresh on a new realm and don't have much gold. So please let me know if this post helped you in any way and if know of anything I have missed please leave a comment and I will add it to the string.


Restocker is a module of TradeSkillMaster that I use for helping making sure that I have all the vendor items I need. The way I use is to set up two Operations called Bags and Vendor. Below shows both Operations. You will need to use the Auction House for the Restocker window to pop up, but this isn't a problem..


This Operation can to added as the main Restocker Operation for the whole Vendor Items subgroup. You just to click the Override Module Operations and the pick Vendor. As you can see I've got it set to twenty, as this stops my back getting to full.


This Operation needs to be added to the Bags part of the subgroup. Do the same as with the Vendor operation.. I've only got this set to one bag, so I don't flood the market....

This is how Restocker will look and you can see it tells you what stock I have and how many I need to buy. Don't worry about the Price part, as this is using the prices from the Auction House and you will be buying from a Vendor Seller. I know this isn't really what Restocker was made for, but I think it works really well!!

I hope you find this post useful in setting up the Vendor List and if you want to find out more about TradeSkillMaster and gold making in general.......please follow me on Twitch and come and watch the stream. I'll always try and help and answer question, so pop into chat and say hi!!



Dalaran shirt run!

Here is a short video about where you can buy a number of shirts from a vendor in Dalaran, these shirts are used from transmog. I leaned this tip from Jim from Power Word:Gold. This is not going to be a massive market, but I find these market kind of fun, because I love it when people buy my items of the auction house that you can buy from vendors!!

I hope you enjoy the video and start to make gold from selling these on your realm. Please leave a comment about how they sell on your auction house i.e. price and volume sold, as this might help other people get more of an idea of prices.


Glyph Wars!!

The Opponents

I am now in a glyph war with three people on my realm and I'm blaming the new influx of new lvl 90's!! It's now a hourly battle to make any real gold from glyphs. I was making around 5k gold per day, but now I'm having to work really hard to make around 2k gold. So I need to take a look at what they're doing and see if I can make a plan without lowering my prices too much! 

First thing I did was check out the heat maps for me and my competition that showed the amount of glyphs posted and what time. You find these over at  The Undermine Journal.

My Post Activity Heat Map


 I post up to 580 glyphs each day, but I'm a bit limited to when I can post due to work and my wife would kick my butt if I played any longer! lol

Post Activity Heat Map for Main Competitor


They have been posting every day and he/she can post up to 600 glyphs at a time. I have added them to my friends list, so I can keep an eye out on when they're in-game and posting. This person as the upper hand at the moment, because they're posting any time from 7am till 12am every day.

Post Activity Heat Map for Second Competitor


This person post up to 350 glyphs per day, but mostly Monday to Friday. Also added to friends list and I also know they bark in trade wanting to buy herbs, ore and high end enchanting materials. 

Post Activity Heat Map for Third Competitor


 Posts most days and has been doing so for a while now, but has been posting more glyphs then before the new 90's came about! Posting numbers are around the 250 mark, but only 65% of them are glyphs. This number still takes its toll on my sales!

Plan of Attack

I would like to say its going to be easy, but I'm not that lucky. So where do I start? I can't compete with my competitors if it came down to how many hours a day you could post. So I need to think about what ways I could use that gives me the best chance of getting back up to the 5k gold per day!!

 Do I think about posting a wall of glyphs at a really low price and see how that goes, but I know it may take a while to see any benefit from that way. Plus I would need to think about what price to set the wall at. My minimum price is set at 20g......but to be honest not many get posted at that. If I did choose that idea I would set the price at 50g and see what happens. I have read a post saying posting a "wall" of glyphs and take weeks or months before you start moving your prices back up (Please check out Faid's post at ClockWorkRiot because she goes into detail about setting up a glyph wall). That's where I don't really like the idea of the wall, I don't want to sell my glyphs cheap!! 

I could use the mobile app to post my glyphs during the day. This way isn't ideal because you can only post 200 or 300 a day and you can't use TradeSkillMaster to help with posting.  Also it would take an age to re post over 200/300 glyphs..........but it does have it's benefits. The main benefit is that even if my competitors have added my glyph seller to there friends list and they're watching for me to log-on they can't see me posting. So maybe not good for mass posting, but it might work for posting the high end glyphs before the other sellers log-on.

Or do I just keep plugging away and try to keep the pressure on the competition and hope they get sick of having to re post every hour. 


First thing, its going to be fight till the death!!! (joking)

I mean its going to be tough to get back to my 5k gold daily sales, because I cant post all day like they can. Lets hope this is just a short term thing and they soon get bored once the new 90's die down. Until then I think I'm going to be sticking to how I'm posting at the moment. But I will be using the mobile app to post more during the day when they're not posting. Hopefully with more focus on keeping an eye on my auctions so I know when I've been undercut and using the mobile app........I might win!!